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Sunday, September 03, 2006

Appease or Fight; There Is No Third Way

Two editorials caught my eye this afternoon-- One because it echoed my own thoughts on the unintended consequences of Olmert's war failure, the other because of the sheer madness of western governments and their peoples inability to accept the reality and necessity of this war.

In Hoping Israel Can Be Defeated by Uriel Heilman of the New York Post we get a very clear picture of what peace treaties actually bring and why, and what they don't bring.

Why are Arabs with business and political ties to the West, and even to Israel, jumping on the Hezbollah bandwagon? Because their moderation derives not so much from an acceptance of the Jews' historical right to a homeland in the Middle East, but from the Arabs' repeated inability to defeat Israel - shown in a series of crushing defeats like the 1967 Six-Day War, when Israel held off invading Arab armies and captured the Golan Heights from Syria, the West Bank from Jordan and Gaza and the Sinai from Egypt.


Treaties-- or so it seems in this case --bring national respect, borne out of a national fear of losing more than what is already lost, or losing altogether. But it's a grudging respect, not the kind of respect that comes of genuine love and admiration. And this is where much of Israel's old enemies are today. Sure, they do business with Israel, some have good honest relations with her, but deep down, given the knowledge that Israel could be defeated in armed combat? How quickly would their good honest relations be shed were it honestly believed that Israel could be conquered?

Many said Israel was fighting Hezbollah for the West and western interests; She was doing the work for us. But the fact that Israel undeniably lost that war, how does that mirror the West's chances of winning on its own fronts? As long as the media hypes the tragic for the sake of ratings and revenue, we don't stand a chance. Freedom of the press is often-- of late --over-rated. We sacrifice our rights everyday to employers, government, judges and prosecutors, yet we balk at muzzling the press. They have become America's golden calf, and little good will come of it.

The UK Telegraph says... Five years on, this war must intensify, though it should go without saying; how else will the West win? And win we must, for...

...the West [has] only two choices: to appease the terrorists or to fight them.

[...]

In the conflict between the terrorists who wish to impose their vision of a "just and righteous society" by force on the rest of us, there is nothing to talk about: they are not interested in compromise or negotiation, and there is no common ground between their vision of the future and ours. The terrorists themselves have stated their position clearly: "We are not," one of them has insisted, "trying to exact concessions from you. We are trying to eliminate you."


Why there is such a huge number of people who seem to think these freedom-fighters can be appeased is seemingly beyond comprehension. To me, at least. We know what they want-- they have said as much, but the appeasement crowd chooses instead to parse the rhetoric and believe there is a different meaning hidden somewhere within... "We are trying to eliminate you"... One that says just leave the middle-east and we'll leave you alone. Would that it were true. America has forgotten how to win a war, because, with the advent of modern media and endless pleasures and diversions, America has forgotten how to think for itself.

And Britain is no better off that we. America will at least prosecute the ones we find and capture, Britain can't seem to find the stomach to even prosecute the purveyors of hatred on their own soil. Freedom of speech is all well and good, in terms of society as a whole, but Americans sacrifice their freedom of speech every day they punch the clock at work, and willingly allow hate-speech arguments to abridge their free speech rights further.

But not all hate speech... It's perfectly fine to allow certain people more freedom of expression of others, provided the target of such expression has earned it... ("Death of a President" leaps immediately to mind. A fake documentary about the assassination of President George W. Bush, and its resultant aftermath. But then, why should the President of the United States be exempt from exploratory free-speech in the form of an assassination plot? It's not like they're actually doing it, let alone advocating it, right?)

But even if it were true that the [British] Government's foreign policy is a catalyst for terrorism, it would clearly be quite wrong to change it in order to appease the terrorists. The terrorists will never be appeased. If Britain's foreign policy is wrong, politically or morally, it should be changed for that reason: it should not be changed to capitulate to terrorist blackmail.

[...]

It was the failure to act decisively against the preachers of hate that helped to incubate Islamic terrorism in Britain. The continued reluctance to prosecute those preachers can only exacerbate the mortal danger we face.


I believe Solomon said it best... "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven."

Perhaps this is a time for wielding swords.

7 Comments:

Blogger Dan Trabue said...

Beware anyone who tells you there are ever ONLY two ways. Especially when the only two choices have evil connotations.

They are either lying or deceived.

September 04, 2006 8:28 AM  
Blogger Eric said...

You have a poorly defined view of Evil.

Was it an evil day when hijackers commandeered four airliners slamming three into buildings-- one having missed its target? It's undeniable that the acts themselves - of highjack and murder - were indeed evil, but the day itself was not; it is thought of as an evil day because a great hurt was levelled upon the psyche of this nation. People say, 'the times are evil,' but this is not the case, rather it's only the perception of evil based on events within the 'time'. It is your perceptions that are distorted here. Because fighting an obvious evil is not evil in itself. The times are evil that such a war must be fought. But the war is not evil... Men are evil. And evil must be opposed. The only other choice is to allow evil to reign over us, and the allowance of such a thing is most assuredly Evil.

There is no third way, but you won't see it; your intellect has blinded you. You live in a world where negotiations and mutual understanding can stop train wrecks. Talk, unless honestly acted upon, is worthless... The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it? Let alone negotiate with it? It's time to divert one of those trains to another track. That, Sir, is what's called being proactive. Sometimes its simply called, War.

Lastly, judging from previous comments in previous post, it's not a stretch at all to assume that under specific circumstances you would even see the narrow path that Jesus points to as 'evil'.

And how very true of this day that Jude wrote, "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."

As the story goes, Jesus left the ninty and nine to search for the one that was lost... today is seems to be the other way around. And what a sad day it is, especially considering this present Laodicean age. Go ahead, put God in a box, as ER says. put him away in your sock drawer till such a time you wish to feel pious. For myself, I intend to earnestly contend for the faith.

There are only two ways. Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, and Adam Gadahn have all recently invited the west to Islam. God invites you to Christ. I invite you to Christ....

It is either God, or the enemy. Christ or the devil. Heaven or hell. There is no third way.

"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."
Joshua 24:15

September 04, 2006 10:54 AM  
Blogger Dan Trabue said...

There is no third way?

"But I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil. When someone strikes you on (your) right cheek, turn the other one to him as well."

-Jesus

If you are slapped, do you only have two choices? Can you only fight back or cower in fear?

No, clearly there are other choices. One being to turn the other cheek. To overcome evil not with evil and not by submitting to it, but by standing up against it and overcoming evil with good.

It is an obvious truism that there are never ONLY two ways of doing anything.

"it's not a stretch at all to assume that under specific circumstances you would even see the narrow path that Jesus points to as 'evil'."

This seems to be a preposterous statement, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. Care to try to make some sense of this?

I mean, by calling for Christians to follow Jesus' teachings, to reject violence and to reject cowardice, am I NOT advocating the Narrow Way that Jesus taught?

Yes, there is God's way and there are other ways, in that respect, there are two Ways. But in respect to how we follow God, there are always multiple ways of doing things. But they all involve following God and God's teachings.

I extend to you as well the invitation to embrace that Way.

September 04, 2006 9:28 PM  
Blogger Eric said...

"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Do you think Jesus meant that a nation having been slapped hard, 4 times, to the tune of 3,000 dead, should then turn the other cheek and allow 3,000 more to die? Is that how God expects us to earnestly contend for the faith? And what is this [at least in the eyes of Islam] if not a religious war? One ideology struggling with another? The forces of God and Light struggling against the forces of Satan and Darkness?

I know, I know... you don't see it as such. Continue to believe God expects this entire nation to turn the other cheek and allow evil to force our conversion to Islam at the point of a gun. And when it comes to it, will you steadfastly refuse and accept a bullet to the head?

If a man slaps you in the face and you turn the other cheek, congratualtions. You've done as you were asked-- I think I could manage that myself. But if a madman murders the family next door, do you turn the other cheek by allowing this same madman an opportunity to murder your family, and possibly other families? Where does you responsibility to your neighbor fit in? Especially since we are to love our neighbors as ourselves! Some love, eh? What kind of love allows people to be murdered, when power was given into your hand to prevent it? Do you honestly think God will reward you for turning the other cheek if it allows others to be hurt, maimed, or murdered?

That's something to think and pray about isn't it. Sounds like a homework assignment to me... one we should all take on. Let's find out what God has to say.

September 05, 2006 12:29 AM  
Blogger Dan Trabue said...

"Do you honestly think God will reward you for turning the other cheek if it allows others to be hurt, maimed, or murdered?"

Elashley, I KNOW that we've been through this before. I'm NOT advocate doing nothing to stop murder. I'm NOT.

I'm advocating standing up to evil with good. With reason. With logical steps to stop the evil. To STOP the murder, do you understand the words coming off my keyboard?

But I'm advocating that Christians STOP murder in a way that is consistent with the teaching of Jesus.

September 05, 2006 6:39 AM  
Blogger Dan Trabue said...

And I fully understand how thoroughly the Myth of Redemptive violence is ingrained in our system, so in some ways, I think I understand how you hear me calling for standing up to evil non-violently as "doing nothing." But perhaps you can understand how, when I've pointed out repeatedly that I'm NOT advocating standing by and watching violence perpetrated without trying to stop it, how it seems that you're deliberately misrepresenting my position by saying, "But you're calling for us to do nothing!" or, as you actually stated it, "What kind of love allows people to be murdered, when power was given into your hand to prevent it?"

So, hear me once again say, I'm NOT suggesting we stand idly by and watch murders. Do you understand? I'm AGAINST that action as strongly as I can be.

So, now that I've corrected that misunderstanding, I'll thank you not to imply that this is the pacifist/peacemaker/Jesus' position any further.

Part of the problem and why I'm out here addressing folk like you in fora like this is that to suggest that peacemaking means "doing nothing," is to suggest that Jesus didn't know what he was talking about.

It is saying that when Jesus told us to "turn the other cheek," and later Paul repeats Jesus teaching by saying "Overcome evil with good," that Jesus was not being realistic. He can't REALLY expect us to do nothing?

When, of course, Jesus wasn't advocating doing nothing.

Jesus, being God, fully understands the nature of humanity. Our tendency towards violence to solve our problems. But Jesus ALSO understands that part of human nature is an aversion to inflicting violence on one who refuses to fight back. "It is pouring burning coals upon their heads" to react with love towards oppression.

Now sometimes, we will need to chase out those who'd greedily oppress the poor (as Jesus did in the temple) and towards those who'd harm the innocent. I, myself, have stepped between a man beating a girl and stopped that violence, for instance. And more than once helped stop fights. But I did so without deadly violence towards the aggressor and - more importantly - without bombing the guy's neighborhood in a vain hope of stopping him.

We have tools at our hands to nonviolently stop violence. I'm sure I've referenced them before but you can always google Mennonites and Peacemaking or Quakers and Peacemaking and find further specific answers on how to nonviolently stand against evil. The tools are out there.

The problem is that we have been so thoroughly indoctrinated into believing that deadly violence is a necessity that we view those who suggest otherwise as heretics and refuse to hear what they say. Even when they say "We're not for doing nothing" all the mainstream hears is "Why, they're advocating letting puppy rapers and granny kickers roam the streets!!"

But now, you know better than that.

September 05, 2006 7:43 AM  
Blogger Erudite Redneck said...

My only 2 cents is this: There are very few true dichotomies. And war and peace -- especially war and peace -- is not one of them.

September 05, 2006 7:03 PM  

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